Arkady Sadik
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.12.22 01:58:00 -
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The Zulupark thread also mentions (IIRC) that they are looking at ECCM to make it a more viable counter - basically, they think Falcons are fine, but the counters are bad.
My main problem with Falcons is that they are too strong in small gang combat. No other ship kills the balance of a 3vs3 (or even 5vs5) as much as a Falcon on one side. And yes, the only effective counter is "bring your own Falcon," which is sad. We also reguarly see fleets of 20+ ships where a third or so are Falcons, which is quite a sign of something being wrong.
If ECCM will be a real counter to ECM, this will change. Otherwise, my favorite solution would be to make it just more difficult to "perma-jam" some other ship - each successful jam makes it more difficult to jam the same ship (by any ECM ship) in a certain period after that. This would retain the Falcon's effectiveness in larger fleets, but doesn't give it its small gang killer ability.
I disagree with Zulupark that Falcons are fine, though - the main problem is that there is no reason to bring a Rook or even a Scorpion. Falcons jam as well as a Rook and can also cloak (and no, I don't think that the dps output of a Rook balances that out), while the cloak is a better tank than a Scorpion ever can achieve with a useful jam ability. So the balance within ECM specialist ships needs to be looked at as well. There should be a definitive and good reason to fly the other ECM specialist ships as well.
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Arkady Sadik
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Electus Matari
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Posted - 2008.12.22 12:37:00 -
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 Originally by: geno effort
They're only powerful if you're not packing ECCM.
Let's say we fit an ECCM mod on our Megathron. That hurts our fitting a lot. Which is ok, if we just fitted a good counter.
Falcon has 7 mid slots, with 5-6 ECM modules. 5 multispecs give him "only" a 66% chance to jam the Megathron. And that's a ship that has a good sensor strength to begin with and gimped itself to fit a counter. Two racial jammers alone already jam that Megathron for over 50% chance. With the other three off-racials, it's up to 63%.
Which is why I think that ECCM is too weak. CCP agrees, too. All is well. :-)
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